Time to start buying parts....need advise

[djwolf37]

OK, so i finally got a raise at work and i decided to start buying parts to bag my dak. I have a 04 QC Dakota with a 4.7L v8 auto. I will be buying parts for the front first along with the air management parts. I am fairly new to this and have talked to a couple of members before about bagging my dak, so bare wit m if i ask the same questions (or dumb ones). Here it goes .

Question #1
As far as bag cups and plates go, which is better? And i have only been able to find universal bag cup kits and no bolt on ones, are there any?

[djwolf37]

BUMP

someone must know what the different options for mounting bags for stock arms

[Steve]

For the front I just made cups out of 3.5" or 4" quarter wal tubing. The only thing that sucks if you are using the stock arms is the lower cups will need to be angled, otherwise the bags won't inflate properly. You could plate the arms and bolt the bag to it. Either way will work.

What other questions you have?

[djwolf37]

well what kind of arms would ya recommend (besides barn yard), and are there any out there with the cups built in? I can only seem to find the ones from barn yard. Also i am planning on getting a Air zenith compressor, 1/2 line, 1/2 fill valves with 3/8 dump, and a 12 gal tank for in the bed, will that comp be enough for me at first, or would ya recommend two of those (or something else) to begin with? I won't be flipping the switches t h a t much.

[Steve]

That might be a little to much air space for 1 compressor. i usually run one compressor for every 5 gallons of air, but I have only run Viair and firestone compressors. I had DJM 2 " lower control arms on my previous Dak. The pockets were flat, so you could basically buy a set of s10 cups and use them. Others have had problems with DJM arms breaking. I had none.

[djwolf37]

Originally Posted by admin

That might be a little to much air space for 1 compressor. i usually run one compressor for every 5 gallons of air, but I have only run Viair and firestone compressors. I had DJM 2 " lower control arms on my previous Dak. The pockets were flat, so you could basically buy a set of s10 cups and use them. Others have had problems with DJM arms breaking. I had none.

So which two viair compressor have you used or recommend that i run? Or should i just gt a smaller tank, is the 12 gal overkill?
And for the cups, would these work, and would i just have to weld them in.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by djwolf37

So which two viair compressor have you used or recommend that i run? Or should i just gt a smaller tank, is the 12 gal overkill?
And for the cups, would these work, and would i just have to weld them in.

Those cups may work. There is no overall diameter listed only height. I would never recommend welding the cups in. They just sit in there and float. If anything, get some all thread and weld it to the cups so the top pokes through the stock shock mounting hold to keep it in place. Mine just free float. I don't think the 12 gallon is overkill. I have heard good things about the Air Zeniths. i would get 2 of those. The problem with getting one compressor is it may overload the compressor if you play with it a lot. Plus if one ever fails, you still have one pumping air. Whatever brand you get, I would look for a 100% duty cycle.

[djwolf37]

Originally Posted by admin

Those cups may work. There is no overall diameter listed only height. I would never recommend welding the cups in. They just sit in there and float. If anything, get some all thread and weld it to the cups so the top pokes through the stock shock mounting hold to keep it in place. Mine just free float. I don't think the 12 gallon is overkill. I have heard good things about the Air Zeniths. i would get 2 of those. The problem with getting one compressor is it may overload the compressor if you play with it a lot. Plus if one ever fails, you still have one pumping air. Whatever brand you get, I would look for a 100% duty cycle.

OK....so let me see if i understand this right, the cups don't get welded in they just get placed in the control arm and then the bag gets mounted to that. No bolts or welding or anthing? How do i angle the cups it thy just free float (as stated in previous post) Also what size diamiter cups should i be looking for?
colud ya link me to a set of cups that would work for shure.

[Steve]

You are correct. They just float in there. You can weld a piece of all thread so it goes through the top shock bolt hole to help keep it in place. You only need to angle the bottom cut and I used a plasme cutter and grinder. I made my cups, so I don't know of anywhere that has a set of bolt in ones for the kota. I think the diameter is 3.5" or 4", I am not sure.

[skrapenframe]

Do you think a 45 degree angle on that bottom cup would be too much?